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Trump: It Would Be Interesting To Ask Bill Clinton The Difference Between Him And Cosby

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Trump added that he respects women and that he would protect them.

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Donald Trump says it would be "very interesting" to ask Bill Clinton how he was different from Bill Cosby.

Asked on the Howie Carr Show on Monday if there is a difference between Clinton and Cosby, Trump said, "Well, the Cosby thing is a weird deal and he's got himself some big problems, and you almost have to ask Bill Clinton that question. It would be a very interesting question to some day ask him. Certainly he has a lot of strong charges against him and it's pretty bad stuff. And it only got brought up because she said I have sexist tendencies. And I respect women so much and I'll protect women and I'll protect them and I'll protect the whole country."

Criminal charges were filed against the comedian last week for the first time over an alleged 2004 sexual assault. Cosby has been accused of sexual assault by more than 40 women over the years.

Carr also compared two past headlines about Trump's and Clinton's sex lives.

"I remember a headline in one of the New York tabs, I forget which one, saying about one of your girlfriends, maybe one of your wives, 'best lover I had,' that's the headline I remember about you. The headline I remember about him in the New York tabs is, 'you better put some ice on it.'"

"Oh wow. That's amazing," Trump said.


Donald Trump Is Feuding With Samuel L. Jackson Regarding Golf

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Jackson questioned Trump’s integrity on the golf course.

In an interview with United Airlines’ Rhapsody magazine, Samuel L. Jackson said Donald Trump cheats at golf.

In an interview with United Airlines’ Rhapsody magazine, Samuel L. Jackson said Donald Trump cheats at golf.

"But it's funny — last week or so, I actually got a bill from Trump National Golf Club. And I haven't been there in four or five years, so I had my assistant call. They said it was for membership dues. And I said, 'I'm not a member,' and they said, 'Yeah, you are — you have a member number.' Apparently he'd made me a member of one of his golf clubs, and I didn't even know it," Jackson told the magazine.

Jackson was asked who the better golfer was, to which he replied, "Oh, I am, for sure. I don't cheat."

Jackson told Access Hollywood that it is "awful" Trump is worried about him.


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Trump Says He'll See The New Benghazi Movie If He Finds The Time

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“I’ve spent so much time campaigning, I don’t have a lot of time to do things that I used to do.”

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Donald Trump said Monday that he plans to see the new film depicting the Sept. 11, 2012 terror attacks on the diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya.

"I would say so," said The Donald when asked on the Howie Carr Show if he had plans to see 13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi . "Somebody said it's actually a fair depiction which is interesting, but I would say I'd like to, if I find the time."

"I've spent so much time campaigning, I don't have a lot of time to do things that I used to do," continued Trump. "But, you know, we're gonna make the country great again."

The movie opens in ten days.

Bernie Sanders And His Fans Are Literally Finishing Each Other's Sentences Now

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It’s like a Jimmy Buffett concert or one of those Sound of Music sing-a-longs. People just chant everything together.

The Bernie Sanders faithful came out to witness their candidate do what he often does on Tuesday in New York: give a big speech on the evils of Wall Street.

The Bernie Sanders faithful came out to witness their candidate do what he often does on Tuesday in New York: give a big speech on the evils of Wall Street.

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The fans are, in fact, so faithful that they know and anticipate his lines and chant them along with Sanders!

The fans are, in fact, so faithful that they know and anticipate his lines and chant them along with Sanders!

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Huckabee On Oregon: Handful Of Extremists Shouldn't Negate Federal Lands Issue

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“The actions of a handful of extremists don’t negate a very serious issue.”

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Mike Huckabee says the actions of armed militia men occupying a federal building in Oregon should not discredit legitimate opposition to federal control of vast amounts of land in the western United States.

"Now I know the media and left are going to try and paint everyone who opposes overbearing federal land management as violent, right-wing crazies, but it's funny how they didn't dismiss protesters who occupied Wall Street as left-wing crazies," the former governor of Arkansas said on his paywalled podcast.

"But don't let the feds off the hook that easily. The actions of a handful of extremists don't negate a very serious issue."

After giving a brief history of federal land management, Huckabee then identified what he saw as the main problem with federal government controlling ranching lands.

"With the rise of big government and the growing political power of the radical environmental movement, we now have land management bureaucrats who know, and care nothing, about farmin' or ranchin', but who gladly put the echo cause of the month ahead of the rights of those who have lived and worked on these lands for generations," Huckabee said.

"I want to be clear, there's no right to break the law. There's no right to trespass or occupy government property. I'm not defending that tactic at all. It's unlawful and counterproductive," Huckabee continued. "But western state residents do have the right to be angry at the way the federal government denies their basic rights."

Jeb On Oregon Stand-Off: It's Inappropriate And They Should Cease And Desist

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“I think people’s frustrations there are ill-served by militia and at the same time I think there needs to be a much different approach as it relates to the western lands issues.”

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Former Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida on Tuesday addressed the armed stand-off at a federal building in Oregon, saying the occupiers were wrong and should stand down.

A small militia is occupying the headquarters building at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in a spontaneous slumber party in rural Oregon as part of a protest against the federal government and the impending imprisonment of two Oregon ranchers.

"I think it's wrong. I think it's inappropriate and they should cease and desist. Having said that, the federal government ought to be much more differential to states and localities and shift power back to states and localities — including land," Bush told Iowa radio Simon Conway Show.

Still, said Bush, the government controlled too much land in the west.

"There's no reason to expand the federal government's control of land," said the Florida governor. "It's been a disaster. If you got out best you'll see it. I think people's frustrations there are ill-served by militia and at the same time I think there needs to be a much different approach as it relates to the western lands issues."

Ted Cruz Says Trump Jumped The Shark By Questioning His Citizenship

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Cruz tweets out the literal jumping the shark scene.

In an interview with the Washington Post on Tuesday, Donald Trump said Ted Cruz' Canadian birth would be a "big problem" for the GOP.

In an interview with the Washington Post on Tuesday, Donald Trump said Ted Cruz' Canadian birth would be a "big problem" for the GOP.

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"Republicans are going to have to ask themselves the question: 'Do we want a candidate who could be tied up in court for two years?' That'd be a big problem. It'd be a very precarious one for Republicans because he'd be running and the courts may take a long time to make a decision. You don't want to be running and have that kind of thing over your head," Trump told the Post.

"I'd hate to see something like that get in his way. But a lot of people are talking about it and I know that even some states are looking at it very strongly, the fact that he was born in Canada and he has had a double passport."

The scene is the actual source of the phrase "jumping the shark" — i.e. when a show, or in this case, a person, has gone into decline. The scene is widely considered to be a turning point in the series when Happy Days declined in quality.

Cruz had managed, until recently, to avoid Trump's attacks, opting to not directly criticize the businessman and Republican presidential front-runner. Now that recent polls have Cruz leading in Iowa, Trump has zeroed in on the Texas senator, calling into question his faith and Canadian birth (something Trump once said wasn't a problem).

Cruz was a dual citizen of Canada and the U.S. until last year, when he renounced his Canadian citizenship. His mother was an American citizen living in Canada.


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Bernie Sanders Offers Two Theories For Why Young People Like Him

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NEW YORK — Bernie Sanders thinks he knows why so many young people are backing his campaign, but he's still surprised to be the face of the young, progressive left.

During an appearance on Comedy Central's Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore, scheduled to air Tuesday night, the host asked Sanders to speculate on why there are so many young people fixated on the Sanders campaign.

"I've been thinking about that Larry," Sanders said, "and, honestly, I don't really know."

The youth vote is a huge driver of Sanders' digital and field efforts. College aged-voters pack Sanders town halls all across Iowa and New Hampshire. The campaign is banking on youth voters over-performing come Caucus Day to help them pull off a victory over Hillary Clinton.

Wilmore and his panel asked Sanders about Donald Trump (he said he couldn't explain Trump's use of "schlonged"), Black Lives Matter, and to speculate on a running mate during a long appearance on the show. The broadcast interview will be heavily edited for time, but staff with the program told BuzzFeed News the full appearance will be posted online.

Sanders speaks often with pride about his youth support. Wilmore asked him to speculate on where it came from. Sanders had two reasons he thinks younger progressives are flocking to him.

"A lot of young people are asking themselves how it happens that in America today with all this new technology and productivity, how does it happen that everything being equal, if we don't turn it around they're going to have a lower standing of living than their parents?" Sanders said.

"Second answer is young people by definition are idealistic. They want us to lead the world, they want us to lead the world in combatting climate change," Sanders went on. "I am really deeply moved by this. They are disgusted by racism and some of the rhetoric in this country."


Jeb On Why He Thought He Got NRA Award That Didn't Exist: "Just Read It"

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“I don’t know, I thought… just read it,” he said when asked about an NRA award he’s often talked about but did not receive. “I got it wrong as it related to Heston giving me the gun, but he — I met him there. They showed me the gun when he was there.”

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Asked on Tuesday why he repeatedly claimed to have been the NRA's "statesman of the year" in 2003 — an award that does not exist — former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said he didn't know, saying he read it.

"I don't know, I thought... just read it," the former Florida governor said during a press gaggle on Tuesday in New Hampshire. ("Read" in the past tense.)

"I was keynote speaker at the annual conference where I was rated A-plus," Bush added before describing more of his pro-gun record.

The former Florida governor has told the of being the story on several occasions of receiving a rifle from then-NRA president Charlton Heston and being the winner of the group's "statesman of the year" honor in 2003.

BuzzFeed News reported that not only did Heston not give Bush the rifle, though he met him at the 2003 NRA conference held in Orlando, Florida but the "statesman of the year" award does not exist.

Bush, then, transitioning back to question at hand, also noted he got wrong getting the flintlock rifle from Heston but maintained his strong record on gun rights.

"I got it wrong as it related to Heston giving me the gun, but he — I met him there. They showed me the gun when he was there," Bush added before again, he noting his strong record on gun rights.

"If that offends your sensibilities or anybody's, I apologize for getting that wrong but I think the intent was pretty clear," he concluded.

LINK: Jeb Bush Has “Mistaken And Conflated” Story About Receiving NRA Award, Campaign Admits

After Decades, Congress Effectively Lifts Ban On Federally Funded Needle Exchanges

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SAN DIEGO — In the waning days of 2015, congressional Republicans agreed to essentially end their decades-long opposition to federally funding state and local needle exchange programs, slipping a repeal of the ban into the end of the year omnibus spending measure with virtually no fanfare.

The decision — purportedly spearheaded by House Appropriations Chairman Hal Rogers and backed by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, both from Kentucky, as well as West Virginia Republican Sen. Shelley Moore Capito, who is on the Appropriations Committee — came in response to a massive HIV/AIDS outbreak in Indiana, as well as their home state’s decision to implement its own exchange to combat growing heroin use.

Rogers and Capito spokespeople did not return requests for comment, but a McConnell aide acknowledged that Rogers pushed for it and that McConnell ensured the language got in the bill.

“If you’d spoken to me at the beginning of last year, I’d have said we’re playing the long game, can we even identify a single Republican to champion this,” said Michael Collins, Deputy Director of the Drug Policy Alliance.

HIV/AIDS experts and activists hailed the decision. The “partial” repeal passed by Congress in late December will allow exchange programs to pay for “staff, the vans, the gas, rent, everything but the syringes. It’s basically a giant work around” to conservative opposition to needle exchanges, said Dr. Steffanie Strathdee, Associate Dean of Global Health Sciences at the University of California at San Diego.

“It will take a lot of [financial] pressure off these groups,” Strathdee added.

Collins agreed, noting that “the actual syringes cost almost nothing,” but that in keeping the ban on funding needle purchases Republicans aren’t technically running afoul of the largely unfounded belief that giving needles to drug users can encourage further use.

Originally implemented in 1988, the ban on needle exchanges came as much of the international community — as well as researchers like Strathdee — were becoming increasingly convinced that these sorts of programs could help reduce the rate of transmission of infectious diseases like HIV/AIDS and tuberculosis amongst intravenous drug users.

The lack of federal funds significantly retarded the growth of state and local programs in the 1990s and 2000s, as state houses and local governments faced increasingly tighter budgets. That, according to Strathdee, in turn hampered efforts to test vulnerable populations for HIV/AIDS and TB, since exchange programs often double as testing centers.

But by 1998, after a decade of growing scientific research supporting the programs, the Clinton administration appeared on the verge of coming out in support of federally funding needle exchange programs. That April, then Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Donna Shalala was planning to hold a press conference announcing the decision to back lifting the ban.

On April 22, then Rep. Denny Hastert — who would go on to become Speaker of the House and, ultimately, plead guilty to fraud charges related to allegations he sexually abused underage boys as a wrestling coachtook to the House floor to denounce the upcoming announcement by Shalala.

“I think we have a bad message, certainly a bad message to drug addicts to all of a sudden say it cannot be too bad. The federal government is giving me the paraphernalia to put these drugs in my veins,” Hastert said.

“And certainly the message to parents," he added, "and I think as a parent myself, and a teacher, the worst thing that I would ever want to happen is to think about my kids using drugs … Yet, the federal government is actually saying, oh, by the way, if you need free needles to use drugs, you cannot use drugs. That is bad. That is illegal. But if you want the free needles to use them, here they are.”

As part of his floor speech, Hastert entered into congressional testimony a key paper written by Strathdee on needle exchanges in Vancouver — despite the fact that the paper concluded the programs are viable programs that should be encouraged.

According to an April 23 Washington Post report from that year, during a flight from Chile to the United States on Air Force One, Drug Czar Barry McCaffrey pushed Clinton to abandon a push to repeal the ban, insisting it would be too politically risky.

Clinton ultimately agreed, and Shalala ultimately announced that while scientific evidence showed needle exchanges did indeed reduce transmission rates, federal funds would continue to be withheld.

A disposal container is filled with hypodermic needles that were exchanged at a clinic in Portland, Maine.

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After Democrats took control of the House and Senate in 2006 and President Obama won election in 2008, activists and Democrats moved swiftly to repeal the ban, and in 2009 it was ended.

Almost as soon as federal funds began being used for exchange programs, however, it was ended. After retaking the House in 2010, Republicans made re-enforcing the ban part of their year one priorities, and the ban was once again put in place.

But by this summer, the political winds had once again shifted. Collins said the Indiana HIV/AIDS outbreak and the Kentucky’s exchange program — as well as the heroin epidemic that has swept through much of the Midwest over the last few years — helped thaw GOP opposition to the programs. Indeed, while Rogers and McConnell had long been strident opponents to funding exchange programs, Collins said, “Mr. Rogers and his staff decided they weren’t ready to fully lift the ban, but they were willing to do a partial lift.”

McConnell, meanwhile, committed to ensuring the language was in the Senate’s appropriations bill. Combined, the two Bluegrass lawmakers were able to ensure the repeal made it through December’s difficult omnibus process.

On Dec. 21, the Centers for Disease Control quietly announced that federal funds could begin flowing to exchange programs. In a statement on the CDC website that went unnoticed by most health officials until this week, National Center for HIV/AIDS, Viral Hepatitis, STD, and TB Prevention Director Dr. Jonathan Mermin said: “Congress has given states and local communities, under limited circumstances, the opportunity to use federal funds to support certain components of syringe services programs. These programs provide sterile injection equipment and may also link individuals to services including HIV and Hepatitis C testing and care for those infected, substance abuse treatment, and overdose prevention.”

For Strathdee — who’s research was used to implement a ban she opposed — the repeal is something of a personal victory. “I’ve spent the last couple of decades trying to undo this … when your research is deliberately misused, it really hurts,” Strathdee said.

How The Bundys Showcase A Growing Divide In Mormon Culture And Politics

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Ammon Bundy, clad in the attire of a 19th-century frontiersman, stepped up to a soapbox in Minneapolis, and began fervently preaching to a crowd of onlookers.

It was 1997, and "Elder" Bundy was a 21-year-old missionary for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which was celebrating the 150th anniversary of Mormon pioneers arriving in Salt Lake Valley. Local members in Minnesota donned costumes and pushed handcarts, and missionaries were invited to re-enact the town-square sermonizing that had once been popular among religious proselytizers. Some of the shyer elders demurred — but not Bundy.

"He was totally fearless. Definitely a leader," recalled one former missionary who served with Bundy. "When he decides to dig in on something because he thinks it's got some kind of a higher purpose, he's not gonna back down."

Widely admired by peers at the time for his boldness and work ethic, Bundy spent several months serving as an assistant to the mission president (the highest position a young elder can hold) before eventually returning to his family's rural hometown in Nevada, and losing touch with most of his fellow missionaries.

The next time they saw him, nearly two decades later, Bundy was on the news showing off his taser wounds amid a tense, high-profile standoff with the federal government over land rights. It was the spring of 2014, the beginning of a turbulent ascent that would soon turn him into a polarizing folk hero of the far right — and, increasingly, an embarrassment to his church.

Ammon Bundy shows taser marks on his chest on April 11, 2014, after a confrontation with federal law enforcement officials.

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On Monday, the Mormon Church released a statement condemning Bundy's militia for seizing control of a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon, where the group is refusing to leave unless the government meets its demands. "This armed occupation can in no way be justified on a scriptural basis," the church's statement read, adding that conflicts should "be settled using peaceful means, according to the laws of the land."

But the militia showed no signs of standing down in the fourth day of the standoff — and in the meantime their rhetoric has been rife with references to LDS theology. One of the occupiers has identified himself to media only as "Captain Moroni," a hero of the Book of Mormon, and Bundy himself said he was prompted to take up arms after receiving divine revelation that "the Lord was not pleased" with the injustices faced by ranchers in Oregon.

The public split between the church and the Bundy militia highlights an increasingly deep cultural and political divide that runs through much of contemporary Mormonism. On one side of this rift is the religion's mainstream majority, heavenbent on assimilating and thriving in American life; on the other is a narrower swath of doomsday "preppers," Glenn Beckian gold hoarders, and fiercely anti-government libertarians whose more radical tendencies harken back to the faith's founding.

If Mitt Romney — with his wholesome family, unfailing good manners, and impressive career — stands as the embodiment of Mormonism's modern ideal, perhaps the rugged, rowdy Bundys offer a glimpse at an historical counterfactual; a vision of what the church would look like today if the early pioneers that were chased into the desert never ventured back to America.

The growing political gulf between these two factions of Mormonism is on vivid display in the Bundys' home state of Nevada — a key battleground in the 2016 Republican primary contest where candidates are already navigating the topography of the LDS landscape as they court the state's disproportionately influential Mormon vote. (Though Latter-day Saints make up just 5% of the state's population, they have comprised roughly 25% of GOP caucus voters in the last two presidential elections thanks to Romney.)

"It makes me literally cringe when I hear the media report that some of these people are LDS," said David Hall, a Mormon from Nevada, adding that when Bundy and his followers publicly suggest their actions are supported by church doctrine, "such statements border on apostasy."

He's not alone in his embarrassment. In recent days, Mormons have been circulating a tongue-in-cheek hashtag on Twitter responding to reports about the Bundys' faith: #NotAllMormons. (An even more obscure inside joke, #NotAllAmmons, refers to Bundy's first name, which is taken from a popular figure in the Book of Mormon, and which many Mormon men share.)

Aggressively perception-conscious and concerned with fitting in, the church has spent decades working to cultivate an image of wholesomeness, hard work, patriotism, and normalcy — and its members tend to pattern their lives around this ideal. They go to dental school, or become CPAs. They start small businesses and big families. They drive their kids to Cub Scouts on Wednesday nights, and send cheerful Christmas cards to their suburban neighbors.

Todd Craney, who worked as deputy political director for Mitt Romney's 2012 campaign, said the the typical Mormon caucus-goer in Nevada may sympathize with the Bundys on the federal land use issue — a hot-button debate throughout the American west — but is likely to find their civil disobedience alarming.

"Mormon Republican voters in my experience are largely mainstream conservatives who are civic-minded Mitt Romney voters that don't subscribe to the extreme tactics of a very small faction," said Craney.

"Nevada Mormons spend quite a bit of time trying to blend in," said one Nevada Mormon who, perhaps fittingly, asked to remain anonymous. He added, "If a presidential candidate came out and backed the Bundys, they would probably lose a lot more Mormon votes than they would gain."

Among voters like these in Nevada, Marco Rubio — who spent part of his childhood as a Mormon living in Las Vegas — appears to have the inside track.

But the Bundys' brand of Mormonism is not without its adherents. As BuzzFeed News' Jim Dalrymple wrote, the church has a long history of conflict with the federal government that dates back to its earliest days, when founding prophet Joseph Smith organized a Mormon militia to protect the community from aggressors. While LDS doctrine holds that the United States is a modern Promised Land — and its Constitution a divinely inspired document — the religion's culture also has a deeply ingrained suspicion of federal power.

Cleon Skousen, a well-known anti-communist, conspiracy theorist, and Mormon theologian, was emblematic of this tradition in the 1970s and '80s. More recently, it has been embodied by Glenn Beck, a Mormon convert and Skousen devotee. As Mormonism continues to expand globally — with church leaders focused on promoting and projecting an image of diversity — the politics of America's hard right have gradually become disentangled from Mormon culture. Latter-day Saints are still overwhelmingly Republican, but while their views on certain social issues may lag behind popular opinion, most tend to stay away from political fringes. Indeed, the overarching story of Mormon history is one of de-radicalization.

Still, libertarian strains remain in the faith. In 2012, while the vast majority of LDS caucusgoers flocked to Romney, a small but energetic grassroots movement of "Mormons for Ron Paul" fanned out across the state's far-flung rural precincts to organize supporters. (The Bundys were Paul donors.)

This year, Rand Paul has been working to expand his father's inroads to the state's Mormon community, while Ted Cruz and Donald Trump also contend for that segment of caucusgoers.

Connor Boyack, a Mormon who helped organize Ron Paul voters in 2012 and the author of the book Latter-day Liberty, said the the libertarians in his faith differ with the mainstream Republicans "culturally, intellectually, politically, and even doctrinally."

"Romney-type Mormons are generally content to ingratiate themselves with the establishment in pursuit of power and maintaining the status quo," said Boyack. "Mormons who sympathize with the Bundys are far more likely to support agitation and confrontation against this establishment, which they believe is responsible for such sharp deviations from the U.S. Constitution."

Mormon children are taught from a young age to memorize and recite the church's 13 official "articles of faith," one of which reads, "We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law." "Romney-type" Mormons have pointed to this verse in recent days to condemn the Bundys' actions, but Boyack rejects the theological premise of the argument.

He said that as long as it can be shown that political leaders are not "sustaining the law," then "the door is opened for withdrawing support and pursuing other avenues to effect change."

That's the kind of provocative argument that's liable to spark a spirited debate in Sunday School class — but it's unlikely to sway many Mormon voters, let alone the outcome of the Nevada caucuses. So far, none of the Republican candidates have lent public support to the Bundys' tactics, and there's a political reason.

As Chris Henrichsen, a Mormon political scientist from Nevada, wrote this week, "Even my friends that now support Ted Cruz in the 2016 presidential race have no sympathy for the Ammon Bundy-led actions this weekend."

Jeb Bush Rants About How Donald Trump Is Not A Conservative

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Bush lists off some of Trump’s not-so-conservative antics.

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Jeb Bush launched into a mini-rant about Donald Trump's past positions and actions on the radio Tuesday, questioning the Republican front-runner's conservative credentials.

"My view on Trump, though, is a little different," the former Florida governor said on the Simon Conway Show on WHO Radio.

"Is he a conservative, Simon, when he supported a tax on assets? When he gave money to Bill Clinton, supported Bill Clinton when he ran? Invited Hillary Clinton to one of his weddings? Gave money to the foundation? Gave money to her? Said that she would be the best person to negotiate with Iran? Thought that gun control was appropriate? Was for abortion? Bankrupted himself, his businesses three times? Is that a conservative?"

"I think that's the question," said Bush. "I think that's what people are gonna begin to focus on in Iowa and New Hampshire."

Still, Bush said he would support Trump if he was the Republican nominee.

"Yeah, I signed an oath for that, I've been a Republican all my whole adult life," said Bush.

Rick Santorum: Ted Cruz Is An Inexperienced Grandstander

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“And that’s why I continue to fight hard and work hard, and I believe that we have a real opportunity.”

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Last cycle's Iowa Caucus winner Rick Santorum said Tuesday that the current poll-leader in Iowa, Ted Cruz, is inexperienced and a grandstander.

"The idea we are going to put in someone with absolutely no experience or has two years of grandstanding in Washington D.C. as the person we want to lead this country against the most serious threat this country has ever faced, that the world has ever faced, the West has ever faced throughout history, I don't think Republicans ultimately are going to do that," Santorum said on the Kilmeade and Friends radio program of the Texas senator. "And that's why I continue to fight hard and work hard, and I believe that we have a real opportunity."

Despite winning the Iowa Caucus in 2012, Santorum has struggled in national and state polls since launching his second presidential bid in May.

The former senator from Pennsylvania also criticized Cruz for saying he would "carpet bomb" ISIS.

"I don't know where someone who uses a World War II term, with dumb bombs hitting population centers and industrial centers — to use that type of term and say we can win this by the air and by using carpet bombs — this is completely detached from the last 25 years of warfare in the world."

Alabama Chief Justice Says Ban On Same-Sex Marriages Still In Effect

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Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, in an administrative order issued on Wednesday morning, announced that a ban on granting same-sex couples' marriages remains in effect in Alabama until a specific court order is issued to end the ban.

Specifically, Moore wrote that a prior order of the Alabama Supreme Court that barred probate judges from issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples remains in effect.

Moore's order, however, makes no mention of a contradictory federal court injunction issued this past year.

The U.S. Supreme Court decision from this past June in Obergefell v. Hodges, Moore wrote, only specifically struck down the marriage bans in Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio, and Tennessee. While it is precedent that would be applicable to other states' bans, he wrote, it is not a specific order that would end Alabama's ban.

"[A]n order issued by a court with jurisdiction over the subject matter and person must be obeyed by the parties until it is reversed by orderly and proper proceedings," he explained.

Moore concluded: "Until further decision by the Alabama Supreme Court, the existing orders of the Alabama Supreme Court that Alabama probate judges have a ministerial duty not to issue any marriage license contrary to the Alabama Sanctity of Marriage Amendment or the Alabama Marriage Protection Act remain in full force and effect."

Moore stated that he issued the order as the head of the Unified Judicial System of Alabama and under his authority "to correct or alleviate any condition or situation adversely affecting the administration of justice within the state" or take other action "necessary for the orderly administration of justice within the state."

There was no mention in Moore's order of the federal case overseen by U.S. District Court Judge Callie Granade that has challenged the Alabama ban. In that case, Granade in May 2015 issued a preliminary injunction striking down the amendment and act referenced by Moore in his administrative order. The order applied to all probate judges in the state because it was the result of a class action lawsuit that included all probate judges as the defendant class but was put on hold pending the outcome of the Supreme Court's Obergefell case.

After the Obergefell decision was issued, Granade issued a clarification order on July 1, 2015, noting that "the preliminary injunction is now in effect and binding on all members of the Defendant Class."

An attempt by one probate judge to appeal Granade's ruling was dismissed as moot by the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals on Oct. 20, 2015, because, the court wrote "the Alabama Supreme Court's order was abrogated by the Supreme Court's decision in Obergefell v. Hodges.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, which has been counsel in the marriage litigation in the state, condemned Moore's order in a statement.

"In no way does [Moore's] administrative order supersede Judge Granade’s federal injunction prohibiting probate judges from enforcing discriminatory Alabama marriage laws," SPLC senior staff attorney Scott McCoy said in the statement. "If probate judges violate the injunction, they can be held in contempt. This is Moore yet again confusing his role as chief justice with his personal anti-LGBT agenda."

Nonetheless, Moore's move has stopped marriage licenses in at least one county. Mobile County Probate Judge Don Davis — who had been caught between the conflicting state and federal court orders last year — stopped issuing marriage licenses altogether on Wednesday afternoon.

"Well, we have closed," Russell Davidson, a supervisor of the court’s division that handles marriage licenses, told BuzzFeed News. "At this time, we are not issuing any licenses until further notice."

A notice posted on the probate judge’s website on Wednesday afternoon read, "In order to comply with the administrative order of Alabama Chief Justice Roy S. Moore dated January 6, 2016 and rulings of the United States District Court for the Southern District of Alabama, the court is not issuing marriage licenses to any applicants until further notice. This action is necessary to ensure full compliance with all court rulings that apply to the court and to Mobile County Judge of Probate Don Davis. We regret any inconvenience encountered."

But it was a different story Wednesday afternoon at the Montgomery County Probate Court, where an employee who asked not to be named said workers "are issuing licenses until further notice. Our marriage department is open." Probate Judge Steven Reed could not be reached directly for comment, but he did tweet about Wednesday's developments.

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BuzzFeed News reporter Dominic Holden contributed to this report.

Ted Cruz Uses Possible North Korea Hydrogen Bomb To Criticize Iran Nuclear Deal

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ROCK RAPIDS, Iowa — Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz on Wednesday blamed North Korea's possible testing of a hydrogen bomb on both Clintons and President Obama, and used the situation to segue into a critique of the U.S. nuclear deal with Iran.

The test, Cruz told reporters outside a campaign stop, "underscores the gravity of the threats we’re facing right now and the sheer folly of the Obama-Clinton foreign policy."

"When we look at North Korea, it's like looking at a crystal ball," Cruz said. "This is where Iran ends up if we continue on this same misguided path."

"It’s worth remembering that North Korea has a nuclear weapon today because of the Clinton administration," Cruz said. He criticized Wendy Sherman, a former top State Department official who was the lead negotiator during the Iran talks and also led North Korea negotiations during President Bill Clinton's administration. "What happens under President Obama and Secretary Clinton? They recruited back Wendy Sherman, the one person on earth who has actually already messed his up once, to be the lead negotiator on the failed Iranian nuclear deal."

North Korea agreed in 1994 to freeze and dismantle its nuclear program after negotiations with the U.S. However, the country admitted it still had a secret program in 2002 and said it was backing out of its agreement with the U.S. North Korea has since announced four tests of nuclear weapons, in 2006, 2009, 2013 and now 2016.

What makes Tuesday's announcement different is that North Korea is claiming it tested a hydrogen bomb, which is more powerful than the atomic weapons it was testing before. The veracity of this claim isn't yet clear.

"The Clinton-Obama-Clinton foreign policy, stretching from the Clinton administration to the Obama administration to Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, consistently makes same mistakes over and over agin, and is profoundly dangerous with north Korea," Cruz said on Wednesday. "A nuclear Iran is qualitatively more dangerous."

Cruz said North Korea isn't as dangerous as Iran because at least the ruling Kim family are not "religious zealots who embrace death and suicide as a theocratic religious matter."

Cruz said the U.S. needs to work with allies in the region to further isolate the already very isolated North Korea and "continue to raise the costs of their belligerence." He proposed getting China to cut North Korea off, saying the Obama administration has not put "serious pressure" on China to this end.

"For the remainder of the year every bad actor is going to get worse," Cruz said, adding that for the rest of Obama's term "We’re essentially in a Hobbesian state of nature, like 'Lord of the Flies.'"

Cruz is on the third day of a bus tour taking him across Iowa this week.




7 Songs Michael Bolton Should Sing At Hillary Clinton's Upcoming Fundraiser

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Michael Bolton’s greatest hits.

On Jan. 12, grammy-award winning singer and 80s hair icon Michael Bolton will perform at a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton in Detroit.

On Jan. 12, grammy-award winning singer and 80s hair icon Michael Bolton will perform at a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton in Detroit.

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According to the Clinton campaign, it costs $300 to attend as a guest, but if you fork over $1,000, you will get "preferred viewing."

"When A Man Loves A Woman"

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Rand Paul Says He's Not Sure If Ted Cruz Is Eligible To Be President

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“You know, I think without question he is qualified and would make the cut to be prime minister of Canada, absolutely without question, he is qualified and he meets the qualifications.”

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Rand Paul said on Wednesday that he's not sure if his Canadian-born rival for the Republican presidential nomination Ted Cruz is eligible to be president of the United States.

"You know, I think without question he is qualified and would make the cut to be prime minister of Canada, absolutely without question, he is qualified and he meets the qualifications," the Kentucky senator said of Cruz on the radio show Kilmeade and Friends.

In an interview with the Washington Post on Tuesday, Donald Trump said Ted Cruz' Canadian birth would be a "big problem" for the Republican Party.

Asked again if he thought Cruz was qualified to be president, Paul said he wasn't "an expert" on what the Constitution says about natural-born citizens.

"You know, I'm not an expert on the natural-born clause in the Constitution and people have various opinions," said Paul. "Some people believe it means you need to be born here, some people think it means you can be born in another country as long as your parents are citizens."

"And we've had some previous cases of it, but I don't think we've ever gone through the court system for the Supreme Court to decide one way or another," he continued. "It is interesting, and I think sometimes people point out that it's a double standard, in the sense that people went out, hot and heavy, including Donald Trump you know, about President Obama when there was really nothing more than conjecture that he wasn't born in the country. And yet, there hasn't been really the same outrage at all for some one who actually is born in another country."

Paul seemed more certain of Cruz' eligibility in a 2013 interview with CNN, saying, "You won't find me questioning his eligibility. I decided a long time ago I wouldn't be a birther. I'm not a birther for Democrats. I'm not a birther for Republicans. I'm staying out of that."

Later in Wednesday's radio interview, Paul again said he didn't know how a court would decide on Cruz' eligibility.

"You know, we live in a really litigious world and it is a concern that people will sue over him not being born in the country, you know, it hadn't been a big discussion yet and I think this will begin the discussion of it," said Paul. "I am not enough of a legal scholar to say the court will decide one way or another. In fact, probably nobody knows how the court would decide because it's never been adjudicated before."

Federal Agency Urges Court To Include Sexual Orientation Under Sex Discrimination Ban

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The federal agency charged with enforcing existing civil rights laws has urged a federal appeals court to rule that sexual orientation discrimination is a form of sex discrimination and therefore illegal under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act.

In a filing at the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals on Wednesday, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission wrote that "sexual orientation discrimination is sex discrimination, and such sex discrimination violates Title VII."

In supporting the appeal of Barbara Burrows, whose lawsuit against the College of Central Florida was tossed out by a trial court judge, the EEOC wrote, "The district court’s treatment of sexual orientation discrimination as distinct from sex discrimination is untenable and based on a fundamentally flawed premise."

The move is the latest step from the EEOC and advocates in an effort to protect LGBT people from discrimination under existing civil rights law.

A series of EEOC rulings and court cases have aimed to provide protection to transgender people through rulings that gender identity is covered under Title VII, as well as Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972. A second set of rulings and cases, including Burrows's case, has focused on providing protection to lesbian, gay, and bisexual people through rulings that sexual orientation is covered under Title VII and Title IX.

The EEOC ruled in July 2015 that "allegations of discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation necessarily state a claim of discrimination on the basis of sex” barred by Title VII. That ruling, while applicable to federal agencies and in the EEOC's own work, is not binding on federal courts. The move in Burrows's case is an attempt to get federal courts to affirm its interpretation of the law.

In explaining its argument in Burrows's case, the commission wrote Wednesday that there are three reasons that sexual orientation discrimination should be covered by existing laws against sex discrimination.

First, the EEOC argues, sexual orientation discrimination necessarily involves gender stereotyping, which the Supreme Court has repeatedly said is banned under Title VII. "[A]n employer who discriminates because of an employee’s homosexuality necessarily discriminates because of that employee’s failure to conform to a gender-based stereotype: the stereotype of opposite-sex attraction," the EEOC's lawyers write.

Second, it argues, sexual orientation discrimination is a type of associational discrimination, which also violates Title VII. "If a plaintiff is in a relationship with someone of the same sex, and an adverse employment consequence results from that relationship, discrimination has occurred 'because of [the plaintiff's] . . . sex,' in violation of Title VII," the EEOC lawyers argue in the brief.

Finally, and most basically, the EEOC argues that sexual orientation discrimination is, definitionally, a type of sex discrimination. "[S]exual orientation discrimination is also inherently sex-based discrimination because sexual orientation cannot be understood without reference to an individual’s sex (in conjunction with the sex of those to whom the individual is physically and/or emotionally attracted)."

As the commission lawyers conclude, "[S]exual orientation discrimination necessarily requires impermissible consideration of sex. It should therefore be held illegal under Title VII."

In December, a federal judge in California agreed with the EEOC's interpretation of the issue, finding that sexual orientation discrimination is covered under the sex discrimination ban in Title IX.

The Justice Department formally supported the EEOC’s position as to gender identity at the end of 2014. Since then, Justice has taken that position in a handful of court cases, through the filing of statements of interest or amicus curiae briefs in cases from Texas to Virginia.

The Justice Department has not, however, weighed in yet on the sexual orientation question at issue in Burrows's case.

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John McCain: "I Don't Know" If Cruz Is Eligible For Presidency With Canadian Birth

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McCain, the Republican nominee in 2008, was born in the Panama Canal Zone when it was a U.S. territory.

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Arizona Sen. John McCain said he doesn't know if the Canadian-born Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas is eligible to be president, saying the Supreme Court might have to decide if Cruz is eligible to be president.

"I don't know the answer to that," said McCain on the Chris Merrill Show on KFYI550 on Wednesday of Cruz's eligibility. "I know it came up in my race because I was born in Panama, but I was born in the Canal Zone which is a territory. Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona when it was a territory when he ran in 1964."

Cruz was a U.S. citizen at birth; his mother was a U.S. citizen living in Canada at the time.

In an interview with the Washington Post on Tuesday, Donald Trump said Ted Cruz's Canadian birth would be a "big problem" for the Republican Party. Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul added on Wednesday that he was not sure if Cruz was eligible to be president of the United States, either. (Both men previously had said it was not an issue.)

"Yeah, it was a U.S. military base," continued McCain about his own birth. "That's different from being born on foreign soil so I think there is a question. I am not a Constitutional scholar on that, but I think it's worth looking into. I don't think it's illegitimate to look into it."

"I would think so," McCain added, when asked if Cruz should try to get ahead of eligibility issues, saying he got ahead of questions about his birth in the Canal Zone.

"It may be, that may be the case," McCain said of the Supreme Court deciding the meaning of being a "natural born" citizen.

McCain has long been critical of Cruz.

Shaun King's Days As A Pastor Mirrored His Later Successes — And Failures — As An Activist

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Shaun King in the fall of 2008, making a YouTube pitch for Courageous Church.

ATLANTA —Inside the shell of a vacant building, in the fall of 2008, the activist Shaun King, then 29, filmed a video telling his supporters about one of his life’s many dreams: to plant a church in the “The Bluff,” a neighborhood in the English Avenue section of Northwest Atlanta. Known as Atlanta’s forgotten community, nearly half of the homes there are vacant. But it’s where King said his vision to be a church planter began.

“This neighborhood is spiritually empty, not just physically empty,” King says in the grainy video. “Our heart and our passion and our love is for the people that are here.”

“Maybe,” he says, “just maybe one day years from now we’ll be able to buy this corner, and this corner can be a beacon of hope and beacon of light for this area called ‘The Bluff.’ Will you believe God with me for that?”

Although his vision for a church was still forming in 2008, the video was classic King: He often filmed himself making appeals to his vast network of monetary support for various projects. By late 2008 — still weeks away from Courageous Church’s first service — King had helped corral thousands of dollars for a Christmastime toy drive and donated uniforms to a local school.

By 2009, the Association of Related Churches, an organization that works with pastors and their wives to plant churches, assessed and approved King. To ARC, which was averaging close to 50 new churches a year, King had unlimited potential. He was celebrated for his ability to rally people around causes using technology, and he used that leverage to tell the ARC’s leadership it was too white. King was something of a golden boy, so they listened — and King delivered with something no church planter can deny: numbers.

With King, the organization had its largest church grand opening ever. On average, ARC’s churches host about 250 people. More than 600 people showed up to hear King speak at Courageous Church’s first service on Jan. 11, 2009 at Center Stage in Downtown Atlanta. The church took up an offering.

King never planted a church in The Bluff, but he led Courageous Church for nearly two years. It’s not clear how many members the church had at its peak, but in 2011, after a shift to make the church less focused on traditional Sunday services and more mission-oriented proved unpopular, King stepped down. An assistant, Broderick Santiago, assumed pastoring duties, but the church closed its doors within a few weeks’ time.

Interviews with King, as well as dozens of his friends and former members of his church — as well as King’s numerous blog posts and video pleas for donations to the church — reveal many of the typical struggles of a young pastor and a new church: problems finding meeting places and inconsistent tithes. (Many members were under-employed or not working at all. The breakfast drew dozens of homeless people every Sunday.)

Yet, in its narrative arc, King’s eventual exit from Courageous Church also mirrors the wildly ambitious goals, impressive successes, sudden collapses, and nagging questions that have defined King’s public profile since he became one of the most well-known activists in the Black Lives Matter movement. Courageous Church was one of the first of many organizations, nonprofits, and start-ups that King built from scratch. Again and again, the unfulfilled promises of the projects left people searching for answers — about King, his intentions, and whether his peculiar magic as an online fundraiser was fraudulent.

Late last year, King announced the suspension of his latest endeavor, Justice Together. In King’s words, Justice Together was a “noble idea to bring together tens of thousands of people from all over the world, virtually, who are disgusted by police brutality but don’t really know what to do about it.” Members say they understood the project as a way to streamline communications in the decentralized Black Lives Matter movement. Board members pressed King on why he was raising money for an organization that would do much of its work online.

One former board member of Justice Together stopped short of accusing King of wrongdoing in an interview with BuzzFeed News, but observed: “How much does Slack cost?”

King took down a page on Justice Together’s website that listed the names of the board members. It included the journalist Glenn Greenwald, Inclusv’s Alida Garcia, and Campaign Zero organizer DeRay Mckesson.

“I am proud of what we’ve done to help so many families in need and refuse to be demonized for my role as a promoter of fundraisers,” King wrote recently. “It is because I have been effective at this that these attacks started from racists in the first place. I raised funds for white folk for years and nobody said a single thing about it. It wasn’t until I started raising funds for victims of police brutality that I began being attacked for it.”

But activists tell BuzzFeed News the allegations of financial impropriety swirling around King come at a time when the movement can nary afford it. “It’s just messy,” as one activist said. And though King is not known as an organizer, his notoriety, public squabbles and online campaigns to protect his reputation all reflect on the movement.

The fallout incensed King. He publicly and personally attacked other members of Campaign Zero, a criminal justice policy group connected to Black Lives Matter. Mckesson announced publicly that he had stepped down from the board, but still had questions about the organization, presumably about why King had raised $25,000 for Justice Together in the first place. Johnetta Elzie, a prominent activist, spoke up, too. King responded by telling Elzie not to “come for” him — and said that Mckesson told him “months” ago he was tired of working with her. At the end of it all, King apologized and deleted his entire Twitter timeline.

What’s left is mostly an assortment of blog posts by pastors and church planters dated at the time of King’s departure ... The young stud they viewed as a master of influence was suddenly a victim of burnout.

King responded to the accusations, but the bitter end of Justice Together only raised more questions about his fundraising methods, including what actually happened with the half-million dollars he said he raised on behalf of the families of victims, to a fever pitch.

Said Elzie, “Explain where all this money has gone, why my homie in Atlanta told me last year you start churches — raise money — then disappear.”

But as Elzie hinted, King’s time as a pastor at Courageous Church is mostly unknown, outside of the members, staff and close friends of King, nearly all of whom declined to speak with BuzzFeed News on the record about King’s management and departure.

Nearly two dozen of King’s former church-planting colleagues either declined to speak with BuzzFeed News or did not return a message requesting an interview.

What's left is mostly an assortment of blog posts by pastors and church planters dated at the time of King’s departure from Courageous Church. The young stud they viewed as a master of influence was suddenly a victim of burnout. Even then, it caused some to wonder if King was a false teacher — or if he ever really wanted to be a pastor at all. Others said King left his missional project prematurely. Experts say missional churches that make such shifts need time. For his part, King gave the new church six months and then he was gone.

King has come under fire for the uncertainty over what happened to the hundreds of thousands of dollars he raised for earthquake relief in Haiti. (The Daily Beast reported A Home In Haiti was never incorporated or registered as an independent nonprofit.) Online fundraising ventures like HopeMob and TwitChange flamed out and eventually fizzled, only to give birth to yet another fundraising scheme, for which King’s most fervent supporters had an insatiable appetite.

But for all the doubters, there is also an unwavering group of King supporters. In an interview with BuzzFeed News, a prominent graduate of Morehouse College, King’s alma mater, alluded to a code that he and many Morehouse men would never speak ill of King in a public forum.

“I think you look at stuff like that, with all these projects that flopped and you go, ‘What’s going on here?’” the graduate said. “I don’t really think that it means that Shaun is a bad person. Do I worry that he’s done damage to his reputation? Yes. But is he a bad person? Absolutely not. That's the question people to need to ask.”

“What he ventured to do is imagine a different way to do church and activism,” said Rashad Moore, a Morehouse graduate who is now an assistant pastor to Rev. Dr. Calvin O. Butts III at Abyssinian Baptist Church in Harlem. “Being the person who starts a new path means you run the risk of being unpopular or failing. You will always run the risk of failing. But I know his model of doing church inspired others to do something different, too.”

That King started Courageous Church with a service-minded mission statement (“Love God, love people and prove it,” he exhorted members in his Kentucky drawl) means his plan to deemphasize worship to focus on issues like child trafficking and education, perhaps can't be considered a complete betrayal of his intentions. Jesus did it that way, King would argue, but did so hardly in the temple. So should Courageous Church.

“I'm deeply uncomfortable and bothered by every failure I've ever had,” King said.

The first year of Courageous Church was focused on growing a membership that craved traditional, weekly engagement. The church itself was under financial duress, a common circumstance for churches starting out. The model used by ARC, the church-planting organization that helped King plant the church, would have required King to invest back into ARC with 10% of Courageous Church’s tithes and offerings until ARC could plant another church. After that, Courageous Church would have continued to invest 2% of its budget back into ARC. King gave a plea for financial help; the type of church he was trying to plant are notoriously expensive to maintain.

“I'm deeply uncomfortable and bothered by every failure I've ever had,” King said in an hourlong interview with BuzzFeed News. “I hate [failure]. When I seek out to start something I aim to succeed. But I'm always willing to try stuff that I know may very well fail. Our goal with Courageous Church was to do something we hadn't seen done before.”

“Part of what I've always tried to do is do something in a way that has a high probability of failure with the hope that if it works it might really work,” he said. “But if it fails it might be a royal failure.”

Courageous Church was the first of King’s failures as a public leader and activist. Midtown Atlanta didn't have a lot of churches; it attempted to reach people other churches ignored or saw as “unchurched” in a different, refreshing way. But King demanded a shift. The move proved unpopular; church planters quietly questioned King’s commitment to preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ as King and his family left Courageous Church with little explanation.

King began to build out the framework for Courageous Church amid a boom in alternative ministry-building and church-planting in Atlanta that looked nothing the stained glass houses of worship of the generation before. Based on nearly 1 million interviews, Gallup reported that church attendance had increased significantly each year in the U.S. from Feb. 2008 to May 2010. King and others believed the best way to seize this momentum was to capitalize on the currency of genuine relationships.

He immediately turned to Morehouse College, his alma mater. King was a student there in the late ‘90s and early 2000s, and a chapel assistant at the Martin Luther King Jr. International Chapel Assistants Program, which had produced the theologian Howard Thurman, among others.

Observers and friends say King cultivated a quiet but authoritative profile at Morehouse. While other young preachers were trying to emulate the rhetorical fireworks and cadence of the chapel’s namesake, Shaun King’s preaching leaned on the substance of his ideas. “Speaking at Morehouse, in some ways is like performing at the Apollo,” King said. Dr. Anthony Neal, a classmate of King’s at Morehouse said that in one address King offered a critical analysis on the dearth of black leadership and the methodology of Pavlov’s Dog. He spoke frequently about his personal story, about what he had overcome after a brutal assault in his hometown, mixing it in with illustrations from the biblical text. King won an oratorical contest there in 1999 as president of student government; to the college community, he was well on his way.

“At Morehouse I would try to come at problems from academic or abstract angles,” King said in an interview. “A lot of times I was thinking through them on my own. But it was always a safe place to do that.”

“It wasn’t really about him like a lot of preachers,” Neal said. “People who wanted to be pastors or were doing that to make sure that they were well known, they were making sure they joined the right fraternity, going to all of the right events and meetings and building relationships with the right people. There were just a lot of things that he should have done, that he didn’t do.”

King made his pitch for Courageous Church to meet in the chapel in 2007 or 2008. A decade their senior, King wanted to mentor the students running the chapel as he had done as a student. The students told BuzzFeed News there was no feasible way to allow it; the program is, first and foremost, for the preaching and church activity of the assistants. It wouldn’t have made sense, people who listened to King’s pitch said.

But King maintained a close relationship with the chapel, whose young charges, like King, embraced a different approach to church.

King eventually held a service at the chapel with the assistant’s blessing. At the one-off service, King’s staff provided breakfast, staffed a welcoming and hospitality committee. At the preaching engagement, during the altar call, which allows churchgoers wanting forgiveness or renewal from their sins to come to the front of the church, Beyoncé’s “Flaws and All” played as he spoke. “I don’t know why I remember that but it all but changed my life,” Moore said.

“We come out of traditional church life, with all of these values on having the right choir and the right preaching, the one thing important now is building intentional and meaningful relationships. Shaun understood that right out of the gate and was my first church experience doing something outside of the box.”

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